Why is Tamil god Murugan named using Sanskrit words as Skanda and Subhramanya, but not worshipped in North India?

 This is purely on a lighter note based on “games” played by Tamil Scholars on God names recently.

We title this as “Naalu Tamil Arignargalum Nallaa Irundha Swamiyum”

Serious readers go through the following link, and other readers give it a skip.

Mohan N R's answer to Why is Lord Murugan not so famous in North India?

On the lighter note:

1.DEV DIWALI

North India celebrates a festival called “Dev Diwali” (Is TN Thevars has any links with this festival)

2.MURUGAN

Murugan is the Warrior God. (Is Kerala Warriers have any links with Murugan?)

He won and ruled the entire world. It is said that he took breakfast at (Tiruchendur) Mannar; lunch at Persian; and dinner at (Paththu Kugai) Pacific. His aircraft is peacock shaped. He is adventurous and took a global ride for a Mango fruit.

3 SKANDA

Skanda is not a Sanskrit word. It is a variant of Iskandar. Sikandar is the Person rendition of the name Skanda. Persians called him Sikandar.

“Woh Jeeta Wahi Sikandar”

“Whoever wins is Murugan”

4 SUBRAMANIYAN

Finally Murugan come into a controversy with this name. Millions of views; You tube discussions; Many Scholars claimed that they know the ultimate truth. They spoke ugly about the God and are the pre runners (fore fathers) of Karuppar Koottam.

Let us see a brief account of Subramanian:

1.Lord Murugan had lot of descendants in India, Malaysia, Sri Lanka and all over the Globe. They have their names/ surnames as

Murugan / Bala Murugan

Arumugam

Subramahnyan / Bala Subramanian

Kumaran / Bala Kumaran

Kandan

Senthil

Saravanan

Shadanana

Devasenapati

Shanmukha

2.Recently Suki Sivam was made as a judge to classify these descendants as Tamils and Non Tamils.

3.Suki Sivam made an unprecedanted judgement that Subramahnyans are not Tamils as the name contains Bramahn and exclaimed how a name containing Brahman be a Tamil Name.

Meanwhile Subramanyans, majority are Bank officers, Charted accountants, made an appeal that North Indians do not worship Murugan with any of his name.

4. Not withstanding, Suki Sivam’s punch

“ Sami Unnudhu, Poosai Ennudhu”

become one of the “trending” punches in year 2019.

5. Thiruma Valavan, a Dalit leader hailed the judgement as the unique and came out with another yardstick that who ever made a vow and taken

“Kavadi”

are only Pachchai Tamils and remaining are Fair skinned Tamils.

6. In between Simon, claimed that he may be a Syrian Christian but his Muppattan (Great Grand Father’s) name was Murugan.

You remember actor Vijay clarification on “Use of Pencil in space where there is no gravity” in a film called “Friends, remake of 3 idiots”

I read a logical comment from Arul Pandian:

Subramanian comes from Suppan (son) like in Appan (Father- Lord Siva). Appan and Suppan.

OM SA RA VA NA BA VA.

Who are some pre-vedic deities?

 Who are some pre-vedic deities?

1. The early Dravidian religion constituted a non-vedic form of Hinduism in that they were either historically or are at present agamic.
2. Ancient Tamil grammatical works Tholkappiyam, the ten anthologies, Paththuppattu, the eight anthologies, ettuthokai, sheds light on early ancient Dravidian religion.Seyyon (Murugan or Karthik), was glorified as, the red god seated on the blue peacock, who is ever young and resplendent, as the favored god of the Tamils.
3. The Sangam landscape was classified into five categories, based on the mood, the season and the land. Tholkappiyam, mentions that each of these landscapes had an associated deity such as Seyyon (Murugan or Karthik) in Kurinji-the hills, Thirumaal (Vishnu) in Mullai-the forests, and Wanji - Ko (Indran -the god of Thunderstorm) in Marutham-the plains, and Varuna (the Water God) in the Neithal-the coasts and the seas and Kotravai (Mother Goddess) in Paalai - the desert. (instead of wasteland, it is also taken as a mixture of Kurinji and Mullai under the heat of burning sun)
4. Many local deities, called ayyanars, karuppasamy, pechiamman, believed as the kul dev (i)s are local heroes who protect the village or their family from harm. Their worship often centres around nadukkal, stones erected in memory of heroes. This form of worship is mentioned frequently in classical literature and appears to be the surviving remnants of an ancient Tamil tradition.

Is Kamala a common name in Tamil?

 Yes.

It is a common name of tamil and telugu families which follow Sri Vaishnavism or Sri Vidya tradition.

Kamala in Sri Vaishnavism refers to Lakshmi in red lotus.

Kamala in Sri Vidya refers to tenth mahavidya and her syllable always represent 16th.

Kamala is a common tamil name in Mainland whereas Island nation uses Shyama, another mahavidya.

Equivalent male name is Kamal, a leading tamil actor.

Can I use the word “chellamma” for my younger sister in Tamil

 Chellamma in Tamil means “Sweet and Lovely” little girl. You may very well use it for your loved one.

Another term is “Chelliamma” derived from Telugu. Chelliamma is greeted by others, the younger sister of royal leader. It is like “Raje”.

On the lighter note, in family politics, Chelliammas are more dangerous to the wife of her brother.

Mysore kings sold their all gold and gems built KRS Dam and many small dams for their state people irrigation, why can't India's rich temple follows Mysore kings good deeds?

 Mysore kings sold their all gold and gems built KRS Dam and many small dams for their state people irrigation, why can't India's rich temple follows Mysore kings good deeds?

Ms Gupta

Your logic has major flaws,

1. How you are equating Mysore Kings with India’s rich temples, not with other Kings of Princely states?

Do you mean “Mysore kings sold their all gold and gems built KRS Dam and many small dams for their state people irrigation, why can't Hyderabad Nizam, Baroda Gaekwad, Amar Singh and Travancore Kings follows Mysore kings good deeds?” Please clarify.

1. Which state you live? Where is the need for constructing dams for irrigation purpose? Are constructing dams are environment friendly?

Do you know, over the years, due to increase in population and their migration to cities, drinking water for them has taken more priority than Irrigation. The solution is “population control” Why Indians are not controlling their population which is good for the nation? Irrigation water is not at all a problem, but drinking water has taken away the water. Also clarify how constructing a dam in upstream states solve the irrigation of downstream states.

1. Why are you envying only South Indian Temples where Indian devotees benefit? North or Eastern India also have rich Sansthas who are exporting Indian money to construct temples in Europe, US and other countries?
2. Finally, why dont you donate your jewellery for the good cause following Mysore Kings good deeds?

Which word is perfect, Diwali or Dipawali?

 Both and several other terms are correct, not perfect.

If you ask a Gujarati, which one is perfect, Amdavad or Ahmedabad- he will say Amdavad- and he is the native, and he must be correct.

If you ask a Tamil Scholar he will say

Deepa Olhi- light spread of Deepam.

But a common man say Deepawali and in a fast pace Diwali.

If the opposite person understands, all terms are correct. Do we need perfection?

Do you agree that Tamil Nadu and Hinduism are inseparable?

 Sounderrajan Balakrishnan,

Tamil Nadu is the land of Bhakti, the land of towering temples,

The land of

• 18 Siddhas;
• 12 Azhwars;
• 64 Nayanmars;
• Arunagiri Nathar;
• Dedicated Kings, who built Mega Temples and
• Spiritual Devotees.

Tamil Nadu is the only state in India, which has highest percentage of Hindus (88%) with a population of 6.3 Crore Hindus.

It is higher than National Average of 80% Hindus in India.

The Indian State has more Hindus (88%) than the Hindu Kingdom Nepal (81%)

If any intelligent person challenges the above statements, I request them to go through the following statistics for their FAQ and therafter give their comment.

#1

Hinduism is third largest religion in the world and we are proud that it is one of the oldest religion of the world.

1.Christianity (32%)

2.Islam (23%)

3.Hinduism (15%)

That is one out of seven in the world practices Hinduism.

#2

Main Schools of Christianity:

• Catholicism,
• Protestantism,
• Eastern Orthodoxy,
• Anglicanism,
• Oriental Orthodoxy, and
• Assyrians.

Main Schools of Islam:

• Sunni Islam separated into four main schools of jurisprudence, namely, Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali. These schools are named after Abu Hanifa, Malik bin Anas, al-Shafi'i, and Ahmad ibn Hanbal, respectively.
• Shia Islam, on the other hand, is separated into three major sects: Twelvers, Ismailis, and Zaydis.

Most popular denominations of Hinduism:

• Vaishnavism
• Shaivism,
• Shaktism, and
• Smartism.

#3

The ten countries with the highest Hindu population are:

1. India (79.8%)105Cr
2. Nepal (81.3%)2.35Cr
3. Bangladesh(8.7%)1.4 Cr
4. Indonesia(1.7%)4400K
5. Pakistan (1.85%) 3626K
6. Sri Lanka (12.6%)2269K
7. United States, (0.7%)2230K
8. Malaysia (6.3%), 1349K
9. United Kingdom, (1.7%)800K
10. Mauritius (48.5%), 600K

Tamil Nadu is the epitome of Hinduism and attracts millions of devotional tourists from all over the globe, in comparison with any other Indian State.

Siththan Pokku; Sivan Pokku.