Friday, July 30, 2021

Was there ever war between the Portuguese and Vijayanagara? What happened, and what were the results of the war?

 In 1540s, Vijayanagara troops headed by Vittala Raya, cousin of Rama Raya, attacked Portuguese in Goa and Portuguese surrendered. Another attack on Mylopore, Chennai made Portuguese flee to Bengal.(Details are in point no1)

I will give you below all accounts of Europeans, engaged war with Vijayanagara Empire and their Vassals.

Vijayanagara had powerful army of huge size in three layers-Empire had, their Kingdoms had, Vassals of Kingdom had. Vassals & Kingdoms managed Regional battles on their own. If they could not manage, then only requested the Empire. For big wars, all are called with necessary logistics by the Empire.

In addition, local forces are trained to defend the temples.

European looters, (Portugese, Dutch, French and British) had the habit of seizing treasures from temples, when there is internal conflict or King is engaged some where else.

Few examples,

  1. Portuguese in 16th century planned to loot treasures in Tirupati Temple. When portuguese troup went to the temple, Aliya Rama Raya of Vijayanagara was there with his huge army. Portuguese flee from East coast(Chennai) to Bengal. This has led to the attack by Vittala Raya in Goa. Portuguese surrendered.
  2. In 17th century, Dutch and Portugese were based at Kayalpattinam, Tuticorin for the trading spices to Europe. Fortification of temples and looting of temples were a common thing with European traders and invaders when the king is engaged in war elsewhere. The temples recovered from them, once the king is back. Tiruchendur Senthil Andavar temple invasion by Dutch in 17th century is another example. Dutch fortified the temple, looted, set fire and had taken away the idol to Sri Lanka (Ceylon) and demanded money. When Thirumalai Naicker returned from the war victorious, he recovered the idol by warning and further plan with Kandy Naickers in ceylon, made Dutch to return the idol.
  3. Naicker Kings of Chenji, Tanjore, Madurai created local forces to defend temples based on 14th century invasion memory of Malik Kafur. For example, Sri Rangam was well defended in 18th Century when Tipu Sultan tried to seize it.
  4. Some polypats are created and their main duty is to safeguard the Temple, - one example is Sethu Patis of Rameswaram.
  5. Temples along the Kaveri and Tamirabharani river basins, there are plenty, were well defended by Local Polygars. In 18th century, British and French fortified few temples at some point in time. Example: Aththi Varadhar rising in Kanchi.

Unfortunately, when British and French in action, there were no Vijayanagara Empire (1st layer of army) after 1660 and no Chatrapathi Sivaji of Marathas.

In 1750s, Maduarai Kingdom (2nd layer of army) suffered a setback with the suicide of Regent Queen Minakshi.

There were chaos due to too many wars between too many players in Tamil country. English and French in alliance with Nizams and Nawabs, Marathas, Dutch, Portugese and Polygars.

These Polygars, without the Madurai King, without the Vjayanagara empire, fought three polygar wars( with only 3rd layer of army) on their own from 1799 till 1810. Some of them were caught and hung in public by British.

Thursday, July 29, 2021

Is it true that the Lord in Tirupathi is not Perumal but it is Murugan? Some say it is Devi and not Murugan.

 Nicky Mathur

I have written an answer earlier. After that I come across some information related to the claims, including some one saying Kanchi Maha Periyava also said. Connecting the dots, I am now completely rewriting my answer.

Before revealing it, first I present the Chronlogy of Tirupati Temple from first century BC till date for proper understanding. I will fill the gap between points 2 and 3 later, that is between 4th and 5th century which made us to think Murugan and Devi.

The Chronology of Tiruvengadam Temple Building:

1.The idol is stated to have buried inside an ant hill. It was discovered by some cowherds and reported it to the King Tondaiman in the first century BC or AD. King Thondaiman built a temple to house the idol. Whether the temple was of cut stone, brick in mud or wood, we are not told.

2.Account of the Temple found in Tamil classic Silappadhikaram states that the idol on the hill represented Vishnu (Sengan Nediyon). Silapadhikaram is probably written in 2nd / 3rd AD. The description states that the Sun and the Moon illumined the deity shows that there is no covering at the top or that the covering was of a pavilion type.

3.Alvars who flourished in the 8th and 9th centuries, who sang the glories of the lord referred only the sanctity of the Hill, not the temple.

4.The present temple would have built later during the Pallava regime and the temple is not built at one and the same time.

5.Garbhagraham and ante chamber was built at the end of 9th century or early 10th century.

6.Some reconsecration of the deity done by Sri Ramanujan ir 1130. At that point in time there was no Gopuram.

7.Between 1330 till 1370, Sri Ranganathar idol of Sri Rangam was kept here as there was no safe place other than the Hill they found after the attack of Malik Kafur on Sri Rangam.Till this time there is no account of Telugu or Kannada or other pilgrims to this temple. Attack on Sri Rangam, Kanchi and Madurai brought Telugu Speaking Pallavas, Kannada Speaking Chalukyas and Hoyslas together on the hills to see Sri Ranganathar and to liberate Tamil Country.

8.The extension of the temple structures even extends upto the 15th and 16th centuries. Endowmenting the villages started from Saluva Narasimha of Vijayanagara Empire in 1480 followed by the famous emperor Krishna Devearya and Achuta Raya.

9.Pushkarni steps are constructed by Tirumala Iyengar in 16th Century.After the defeat in Talikota in 1565, the Aravidu dyansty of Vijayanagara Empire lasted another 95 years and they patronsied the temple till 1660.

All the above 9 points are based on the research publications.

Now the Question:

Is it true that the Lord in Tirupathi is not Perumal but it is Murugan? Some say it is Devi and not Murugan.

Now, I will fill the gap between points 2 and 3 later, that is between 4th and 5th century which made us to think Murugan and Devi.

Konganar

There are 18 siddhars who are considered as the pillars of Tamil tradition. Konganar is one among them.

  • Konganar is considered as the son of Bogar (Bogh Nath). His period is said to be around 4th and 5th centuries.

Use of copper compounds in Tamil Siddha Medicine System came in vogue by incisive and fastidious intellects of Siddhar Konganvar or Konganar.

He synthesized all the copper compounds from the extracts of stipulated herbs and used it as a Siddha Medicines.

He was trailed as the “Father of Medicinal Chemistry” in the realm of Tamil Siddha Medicine System”

Konganavar Siddhar is the native of Kongu Nadu i.e… nearer to Coimbatore.

He was born in a small village called Oothiyur, presently in Erode district of Tamil Nadu.

The place is famous for forging of metals into idols or any instruments.

He was born to the family of metal smith, so naturally he was good at forging metals and transmutation of the same.

After a brief period of family life and he quit it for the search of supreme truth to dispel all kinds of ignorance.

He got the privilege of being mentored by Siddhar Bogar.

He learnt Siddha Medicine System under Siddhar Bogar and became a power house of knowledge.

Siddhar Bogar describes Konganavar as the first and best disciple among his students.

He also learnt the gospels of Siddha from Agathiyar.

He excelled in alchemy, Siddha yoga, Siddha gnana philosophies, Siddha meditation and also as a physician.

He compiled numerous treatises on alchemy and medicine, which is a way ahead from the modern discoveries and innovations in the field of chemistry and medicine.

He by his austerities, strong mind and will power raised himself to the level of a great Siddha.

He lived for long and performed astounding miracles and discoveries in the field of Siddha science for the benefit of mankind and world.

He also got knowledge transfer from Siddha Gautamar and Pararishi

He entered jeeva samathi at Tirupati. He used to take bath in Devi Pushkarni and sometimes found near Sri Bhu Varaha Swami Temple.

He is the worshipper of Sakthi - especially Bala Tiripura Sundari or Kaumari (Kaumari is the Sakthi of Kumaran or Murugan). And his Mantra is aim, kleem, sou.

This may be the reason, some believe that Tirupati is also a Siddh Bhumi.

But the temple of Perumal existed before and the wandering Siddha stayed there at his last years.

Yes. Pilgrims do get the blessings of Konganar and his deity Devi Kaumari.

Wednesday, July 28, 2021

Is pure Telugu dead? It feels impossible to speak Telugu without using English/Sanskrit words.

 Whether it is pure or not depend on one’s perception. Language has to evolve as per the needs of the time, and nothing wrong in adding words from other languages as it is. This is true for all mainlands of any language.

If any one look to hear any timeline diaelect of ancient language, the best way is to interact with migrants to far away destinations.

For example, Telugus migrated to Silicon Valley in 1980s still maintain the language and culture of 1980s.

Telugus migrated to Tamil Countries still speak the 600 year old Telugu, but instead of English/ Sanskrit words their descendants may be using Tamil words.

It is more important that the other person understand what you speak, rather than checking the purity.

Tuesday, July 27, 2021

What is the mantra to be changed for Lord Murugan? I have health issues so I was advised to worship him. What should I chant for Lord Subramanyeswara?

 You may read and follow the post by Uddesya Sharma.

You may recite - Om Sa Ra Va Na Ba Va - 125000 times. Decide yourselves the numer of rounds of 108 times per day (say 90 or 60 or 30 rounds); no of days(say 15 or 30); same time -morning or afternoon or evening or night; Same Place. Take bath before reciting, light a lamp, incense. Have some fruits after.

If it is convenient, you may visit a temple called Kalugumalai in Tamil Nadu. It is recorded that this God bless healthy body. (Those who seek wealth are not recommended)

If it is not possible to visit the temple for you - I am enclsoing his picture for your worship while chanting his mantra.

Monday, July 26, 2021

Why is God Kartikeya known as Subrahmanyam?

 Lord Murugan, at certain period of time in cosmic evolution, took the role of “Creator” and Perfected the role and hence called Su+Brahma+ nyan.

The Famous Story Behind Swamimalai Murugan Temple

Swamimalai holds a special place in the hearts of Murugan devotees. The temple is said to have been built in early 2nd century BC by Parantaka Chola I. It is the fourth of six Aarupadaiveedu (the six most significant shrines dedicated to Murugan in Tamil Nadu) and is important because this is when and where the secret of the Pranava Mantra “Aum” was revealed.

The child Murugan reveals the meaning of the Pranava Mantra (Aum); Pranava means “cosmic sound” in Sanskrit. Hindus believe the whole universe is created from “Aum” and that everything has its origin in “Aum”. Swamimalai is closely linked to the story of how the meaning of this cosmic sound was revealed by Lord Murugan to his father, Lord Shiva.

Once Brahma, the Lord of all creation, disrespected Murugan when he was visiting Mount Kailash. Then, the ever-playful Murugan boldly asked Brahma the meaning of the Pranava Mantra “AUM”. Failing to answer the question, Brahma admitted his ignorance. Murugan knocked his forehead, and imprisoned Brahma, bringing the whole of creation to a standstill.

The demigods prayed to Lord Shiva for the release of Brahma. But Murugan insisted the imprisonment was a just punishment for Brahma's ignorance. Lord Shiva then asked Murugan whether he Himself knew the meaning of Pranava “Aum”.

Murugan said he knew its meaning, but would only explain it if Lord Shiva accepted him as a guru and listened to him as a devoted disciple. Shiva accepted the request, and the son became the teacher. He then imparted upon the father the meaning of the sacred Pranava mantra “Aum” and the divine father, proud of understanding the significance, conferred respect to Murugan for his wisdom.

You will see in the main shrine in the temple complex in Swamimalai that Murugan is depicted as a teacher and Shiva is listening as a disciple and, in this temple, the son is on a higher pedestal than the father.

Sunday, July 25, 2021

How can we define one as a Tamilian? Can we have some precise definition?

 Nandakumar

1.Tamil is a language and Tamizhian is an ethnicity.

2. To define Tamizhian based on language is futile.

Language is not Ethnicity:

It is highlighted in one of “Neeya Naana” show nicely that,

Even Marwadi descendants living in Chennai for generations and educated in institutions in TN, speak Tamil fluently, professionally as they are native speakers. Even some ladies composed poems like Diamond Pearl.

The same show highlighted, children born to Tamizh Parents living in West Bengal could not read or write Tamil and the worst thing is that they could not speak fluently, but understood some extent spoken tamil.

So,

Language: There are three categories of speakers.

Native Speakers

Secondary Speakers

Tertiary Speakers

Ethnicity is the one defines Tamizhian:

3. Tamizhian is an ethnicity- who unconsciously follow typical belief, tradition, culture due to their heridity or due to their genetic make up.

Definition of Genetic Purity:

Genetic purity refers to trueness to type, or the degree of contamination of seeds caused by undesired genetic varieties or species. The success of seed production is dependent on the genetic purity of parental lines.

Law of the World: Refresh the gene pool'

4.Want a legal proof: An Indian judgment on Parsis.

A 1908 judgement in the Bombay High Court reiterated that "Parsi" is an ethnic entity restricted to the descendants of those Persian refugees, though logic may look askance at such racial purity maintained over a millennium.

The judges had added that the child of a mixed marriage could be included in this definition only when the father is Parsi. (One is born Parsi, but becomes Zoroastrian after the initiating "navjot" ceremony).

Scholars, liberals - and intermarried women - have protested such discrimination, and nullifying it would improve the numbers and refresh the gene pool.

But the argument has always been battened down, not just by the orthodoxy but the larger paranoia.

"Reform" is a dirty, even treacherous, word for reasons more self-serving than sacred.

Parsis fear that their envied communal legacy will be appropriated by "half castes". Intermarriage accounts for 38%, and is growing.

My take is same as that of World’s view that Tamizhian is one whose Father and Mother are Tamizhians by birth and descendants of Tamizhs of racial purity- wherever they live and whatever languages they speak.

The child of a mixed marriage could be included in this definition only when the father is a Tamizhian.

Saturday, July 24, 2021

What are some names in Telugu which are purely of Telugu origin and not sanskritised? You can find many names in Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada which are born out of the root language and not from Sanskrit. What are some Telugu equivalents?

 Telugu Names in Tamil Nadu prevailed now/ in the recent past:

These are some names in Telugu which are purely of Telugu origin and may be Tamilised.

You can also find many names which are born out of the root telugu language and Tamilised over Centuries.

  1. Akkayya / Akkamma (Akkaththayi) They are born with luck.
  2. Bangaramma
  3. Mangamma (Mangaththayi)
  4. Alamelu
  5. Abaranji
  6. Chellayya / Chellamma (Chellaththayi)
  7. Rajamma (Rajeswari)
  8. Jakkamma (Jakkadevi)
  9. Nachiaramma
  10. Senkanna / Sankamma
  11. Muthyalu / Muthyalamma
  12. Vishwa
  13. Govindappa
  14. Krishnappa
  15. Ramiah (Ramappa)
  16. Subbiah (Subbanna)
  17. Kovappa
  18. Dasappa
  19. Sundarappa / Sundaramba
  20. Kannappa / Kannamma
  21. Chennappa / Chennadevi
  22. Varadappa / Varadamba
  23. Mallayya
  24. Surappa
  25. Venkatiah / Venkatamma
  26. Abbayi
  27. Poththanna
  28. Ethiraju
  29. Sinnayya
  30. Peddayya
  31. Dhravaththi
  32. Genga
  33. Lakshmana
  34. Narasiah ( Narasimha)
  35. Enkatrayalu
  36. Subburayala
  37. Pullayya
  38. Kondayya
  39. Raghupati
  40. Srini
  41. Partha Sarathi
  42. Rama Chandra
  43. Rama Murthi
  44. Rengaiah (Rengasamy) / Rengamma
  45. Appiah (Appasamy)
  46. Rajendra.

Friday, July 23, 2021

Why is there a Hindi imposition in India over other languages, whereas other languages do not do it?

 Why is there a Hindi imposition in India over other languages, whereas other languages do not do it?

Why is there a Hindi imposition in India over other languages, whereas other languages do not do it?

  1. It is easier for the Governments to administer homogenous regions well. Hindi imposition started way back in 1931 by the British.

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-India-need-Hindi-as-a-nation-language-Do-you-think-the-imposition-of-Hindi-is-a-good-solution/answer/Mohan-N-R-2?ch=10&share=0ecbab8e&srid=powaY

  1. After Independance, many eastern regions adopted Hindi imposition over their mother tongues. This is one of the reason for low literacy rates in those regions. As on date 23 major languages with considerable native speakers are on the way of extinction or classified as diaelects of Hindi.
  2. Thank God. Southern Regions not heed to Hindi imposition, lead by TN. TN, Tiripura and Puducherry are the three states still follow Two Language Formula and demostrated their growth and development.

Now coming to your second part of the question:

Whereas other languages do not do it?

You are wrong.

At state level, two states, Gujarat and Tamil Nadu, imposed the State languages without respecting native speakers of other languages.

It is a misperception that having a name of the language in State Name does not entitle the state to impose the language on other speakers. But it happened which also lead to raise of fringe elements against the sovereignity of our nation.

Gujarati on Kathiawadis or Saurashtrians/ Kutchies/ Sindhis/ Parsis of Gujarat State.

  1. Many may not be aware, that our Father of our nation is a Saurastrian first.
  2. And present day Gujarat is home to Saurastrians, Kutchies, Sindhis, Parsis and Maharashtrians in Vadodara as well.
  3. Read below the history of Saurashtra and the Iron Man Sardar Patel who united it with India.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Gujarat-called-Saurashtra/answer/Mohan-N-R-2?ch=10&share=0bbccc8f&srid=powaY

Tamil on other language speakers of Southern India in Tamil Nadu.

Present day Tamil Nadu was carved out of erstwhile Madras State in 1956 and still has pockets of Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, Marathi and Saurashtra native speakers.

There was a stiff opposition to change the name from Madras State to Tamil Nadu for over 13 years -from 1956 to 1969.

In 1969, as DMK had majority, it imposed the name of Tamil Nadu which had native speakers of Telugu, Kannada, Malayalam, Marathi and Saurashtra.

The result - the state supported fundamental groups of neighbouring countries with on ethnicity. At some point in time after a decade, which lead to large scale massacres and assassination of national leaders.

Politicians of low integrity blossomed. Even a politician of Sri Lankan ancestry like Andimuttu Raja could win the elections and become a Union Minister of India(!!!). He not only indulged in corruption in 2G and his culture is so low and ventured to degrad the chastity of then CMs mother after her death. If She would have alive, she would regret for being born in this country.

Read below the treatment of native speakers of other languages in TN.

https://www.quora.com/How-many-members-are-Telugu-people/answer/Mohan-N-R-2?ch=10&share=d627f1f7&srid=powaY

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