History
With your question there are several follow up issues are coming up.
Why there are no holidays for Diwali, Ganesh Chaturthi, Kandha Shasti in Europe, US, Middle East but in India they are given holiday for Christmas, Bakri Id.
Do Indian Government should also follow the same rule as Middle East, Europe, US protecting our rights?
What will be the map of Tamil Nadu if it gets all the land it wants during partition?
1.Partition? When it happened.
2.Tamil Nadu did not exist until 1947.
3.Tamil Nadu did not exist until 1956.
4.The state has got demerged from elsewhere Madras State.
5.Tamil Nadu name did not exist until 1969, till DMK changed the name of Madras State.
It is like old Coimbatore district becomes Coimbatore district and Erode district from 1979.
Administrative division within Republic of India like Administrative division of districts within the state, when it grows bigger.
Annexure:
It is an ongoing process: Latest mergers and demergers:
1.Three new states were created in November 2000: Chhattisgarh (1 November) was created out of eastern Madhya Pradesh;
2. Uttaranchal (9 November), which was later renamed Uttarakhand,was created out of the mountainous districts of northwest Uttar Pradesh;and
3. Jharkhand (15 November) was created out of the southern districts of Bihar.
4.On 2 June 2014, Telangana was separated from Andhra Pradesh as the 29th state of the union.
5.On 31 October 2019, Jammu and Kashmir state was split into two new Union Territories: Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh.
6.On 26 January 2020, the Union Territory of Daman and Diu and the Union Territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli were merged into one Union Territory: the Union Territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu.
There is also a growing demand for “Sen Tamil Nadu” from Kongu Region as well as there was debate on Second Capital other than Chennai for Tamil Nadu.
In India:
1.Telugu is the fourth most spoken language after Hindi, Bengali and Marathi in India.
2.Andhra Pradesh and Telangana are the Principal resident states for Telugu people with over 7.5 Crore Speakers.
3.Tamil Nadu, Pondicherry and Karnataka are the Secondary resident states for Telugu people with 37 lakh Speakers. This is due to their presence in erstwhile Madras State and after formation of linguistic states, they are invisible of not learning their mother tongue in Schools. Now it is difficult to assess the exact numbers. See a case study of Telugu Presence in Madras Presidency at the end.
4. In TN Northern Districts and Pondicherry, the presence of Telugu people dates back to 2nd Century and constitute the majority of the population in Chennai city with around 49% of the people identifying their Telugu speaking connections directly. Telugu people who migrated during the Vijayanagara period have spread across several southern and kongu districts in addition to Northern districts. In Karnataka, Telugu people are predominantly found in the border districts with majority in Bangalore city.
5.In Maharashtra, the Telugu population is over 14 lakh, followed by 7 Lakh in Odisha. Other states with significant populations include West Bengal and Chhattisgarh with 200,000 and 150,000 respectively.
In Overseas:
6.The overseas Telugu diaspora numbers more than 800,000 in the United States, with the highest concentration in Central New Jersey, Texas, and California.
7.Other than US, Indian diaspora of Telugu origin are found widespread, especially in the Malaysia, Myanmer, South Africa, Australia and Canada.
8.Telugu language is the 4th most spoken in the India and the 15th most spoken language in the world.
A case study: Telugu Presence in Madras Presidency From 1901 - 2001 and further
According to 1901 census of Madras Presidency,
Tamils: 50.9%
Telugus:41.3%
Others:7.8%
Obviously, this excludes Telugus in Hyderabad Princely State.
According to 2001 census of Tamil Nadu,
Tamil is spoken as the first language by 88.43% of the population.This may be including some Telugus in some districts who are not able to read or write Telugu and chosen Tamil as the first language.
Telugu by 5.65 percent,
Kannada by 2.68 percent
Malayalam by 0.89 percent,
Marathi by 0.1 percent
Sourashtra by 0.1 percent.
Tamil Imposition:
The Telugu Kings who ruled, Tamil Country for 3 to 4 centuries, never imposed Telugu. They used to continue Tamil inscriptions and Tamil as one of the court language. In Tirupati, one can find Tamil inscription till Vijayanagara Rule upto 1638 and Telugu Grammiya scripts found place after Maraththa invasion in 1671.
But after independence, successive Governments in Tamil Nadu imposed Tamil in schools, because of this Telugus in Tamil Nadu are not able to Read or Write Telugu. Without utility of Telugu, later generations in many districts have to logically wrote Tamil as their mother tongue, become experts and love Tamil literature, arts and culture. Invisibilty is the major factor in drop in percentage.
How much the drop is?
If we consider 1935 census of those districts of Madras State, which now under Tamil Nadu, then the Percentage would be 12.9%. The concentration is in Coimbatore, Salem, Madurai, Chengalput, North Arcot, Trichy, Ramnad, South Arcot,Tirunelveli, Chennai, Tanjore, Pudukkottai.
Based on these, We can infer the percentage of Telugu people in TN would be anywhere between 5.7 to 12.9%
But the twist is
According to Deomographic enumeration in 2013 by an NGO, in assessing invisibilty, Telu(n)gu origin people are about 27%, that is 1.95 crores out of 7.2 crore population.
If we consider 27%, still it is a considerable figure to change the fortunes of Tamil Nadu in the forth coming elections. That is the reason, all parties try to impress Telugu people for their votes.
Over and above, Telugus, especially Kammavar Naidus are most affluent and progressive community with lot of industrialists and philanthropists. (Same is told about Reddiars in Pondicherry).
More so in following districts:
Be it Chennai /Thiruvallur/ Kanchipuram
Or Coimbatore
Or Madurai/ Theni/ Tiruchi
Or Krishnagiri/ Vellore/ Dharmapuri
Or Virudhunagar/ Thooththukkudi
District names mentioned should be read with reference to the year mentioned in the write up.
Why is Gujarat called Saurashtra?
(Before answering your question, some FAQs;
Why is Gujarat called Saurashtra?
See the complexity in reading it. But think that leader who united these Hazaar Rashtras with India in perfection -
SARDAR VALLABHBHAI PATEL.
The British rulers artificially created Hindi as part of their divide-and-rule policy, and propagated the claim that Hindi is the language of Hindus, while Urdu is the language of Muslims .Urdu was the common language of both Hindus and Muslims in Delhi among the educated class up to 1947.
Pakistan imposed Urdu and succeeded despite majority are Punjabis. Delhi rulers would like to make Hindi, the same way Pakistan did - be it INC or BJP or any other.
Would you like to hear the advise of British - a nation of size equal to one of our state?
Do you think these temples are constructed by Brahmins or Other so called upper classes?
No.
It is constructed by all classes- locals and expert Shilpis.
That means the “not allowing certain people has come in between”
When?
When Tamil country is in chaos- exactly end of 17th century onwards.
There were lot of players - family feuds of rulers, Marathas, Nawabs, Nizams, Portuguese, Dutch, French and British.
All around- every player had spies, they want to loot treasures, local individuals were targeted. Rulers, temple authorities had suspicion - but they could not single out. This resulted into mass ban of communities.
Normally, these bans are lifted whenever normalcy return. But unfortunately, that peace never happened, gone into the hands of European invaders.
On the otherday, I saw an eminent NRI person on social media dragged the issue of ‘banning his community to tiruchendur temple’. I do not know mentioning the community here is appropriate.
I am also completely against ‘not allowing’ anyone by birth. But only clarify the reason in that timeline.
Here is the Tiruchendur episode: of Dutch fortifying the temple and stealing the idol for money.
Kayalpattinum was the trade center then with Dutch and Portuguese. Dutch had a base at Ceylon. Portugese and Dutch were at Kayalpattinam, Tuticorin for the trading spices to Europe.
One incident to remember and one of its kind is that Dutch occupied the temple of Tiruchendur at a time when the king was in war with Bijapur Sultan and looted the treasures.
When the king returned victorious, Dutch try to set fire the temple and moved to Ceylon along with the deity idol and treasures. They demanded 100000 reals for the idol. Travancore king was ready to bid for the idol. He was requested not to buy the idol.
Madurai King managed to get the idol by warning and attacking the island region with the help of Kandy kings.
After getting the idol, the investigations done by Tinnevely officials revealed that the details of treasures were taken by spies from toddy shops. Now the ruling is that not allowing the people involved in toddy making and selling.
Normally, these bans are lifted whenever normalcy return. But unfortunately, that peace never happened, gone into the hands of otherEuropean invaders.
Only, time need to be blamed and there were our own people, helped the invaders- both Brahmins or others. Some did help, others suffered because of them.
Why does Tamil Nadu have a temple gopuram/vimanam in its state emblem, when it is an anti-Brahmin state?
What a temple Gopuram to do with a Brahmin?
88% of Tamils follow the major religions of Tamil country - Shaivism, Sri Vaishnavism and Kaumaram or Murugan Worship.
TN Government State Emblem is Srivilliputtur Andal Temple Gopuram, which was the tallest Temple Gopuram during that time, now it is the third largest, after Murudeswar and Sri Rangam.
Brahmins contribution in Gopuram, do not go beyond performing rituals.
All constructed by Religious Kings, Spiritual Wanderers or Sanyasis and devotees. Many devotees sacrificed their lives for protecting our temples from Islamic and Christian looters and noble kings become watch dogs, checking temple rituals of feeding God before they took food. They reconstructed the towers demolished by invaders.
After independence, the devotees of TN, maintaining their tradition, constructed and completed Temple Gopurams of thousands of temples- which remained mottai gopurams for several centuries. Big examples: Sri Rangam Gopuram started in 1542 during Achuta Devaraya regime, completed in 1987. And another noticeable one is Tenkasi Temple Gopuram.
Here an example of History goes:
History: Dutch Destruction of Tiruchendur Temple
Vijayanagara Kingdom ended in 1646 with their defeat at Vellore. Alongwith them the support to Tenkasi Pandiya Kingdom weakened and so the protection to Tiruchendur Temple.
Madurai Naicker kingdom during Tirumalai Naicker (1623- 1659), was under constant threat from the armies of Bijapur Sultanate and the other neighbouring Muslim kingdoms from North.
Dutch and Portugese were based at Kayalpattinam, Tuticorin for the trading spices to Europe.
Fortification of temples and looting of temples were a common thing with European traders and invaders when there is an adverse situation.
Tiruchendur Senthil Andavar temple invasion by Dutch in 17th century is an example.
When Tirumalai Naicker engaged in war with Bijapur Sultans, Dutch occupied and fortified the temple and looted the treasures.
On hearing Thirumalai Naicker returned from the war victorious, Dutch set fire the temple and had taken away the idol to Sri Lanka (Ceylon) and demanded 100000 reals money. The structure, though damaged but withstood the fire.
The temple recovered from Dutch. Tirumalai Naicker warned them to return the idol. He also requested the Kandy Buddhist Kings to attack Dutch if they do not return the idols stolen from the temple. Finally Dutch returned the idol through a Kayalpattinam Marakkayar.
For strategic reasons, Tirumalai Naicker shifted his capital from Trichy to Madurai in 1634 and initiated Meenakshi Thirukkalyanam and Kallalagar Festival to maintain the harmony between Shaivites and Sri Vaishnavites.
The present Tiruchendur temple was reconstructed alongwith Rajagopuram in 1650.
Meanwhile the new idol made by locals is consecrated in Kurukkuththurai and a new temple is built there.
The consecration of the idols were done in Tiruchendur in the presence of Tirumalai Naicker in 1653.
Panchalankurichi Polygars were given the responsibility to vigil. The polygars took the food daily, only after hearing the Nei vedhiyam ritual from the temple.
Many may be aware that Tirumalai Naicker himself took food only after the feeding ritual done at Andal Thayar at Srivilliputtur.
A devotional legend version of the history is picturised in Tiruchendur Temple praharam.
Is Shiv and Shankara, same or Different? - A North Indian Perspective.
Nagendra Singh
There was no Temple system in Vedic Period.
Temples were not built in Ancient India, especially in North Indian regions.
The construction was only started by Buddhists. If anyone closely looks at these Badrinath, Kedarnath, Shankaracharya temple in Srinagar - their structure clearly resembles of Buddhist monasteries all over the world.
In south there was Hinduism but in north Buddhism was popular.
The word to word mouth to mouth campaign Started by Shankaracharya did the trick just like in movie Dhrishyam.
So people believed what was told to them...
Even Shiv was called as Shankara after Shankaracharya name......
If Hinduism was already there in north what was the need that people come and propagate Hinduism...
A comment on my below article by Nagendra Singh:
Is Badrinath Temple Originally a Buddhist Place of Worship?
1.According to some accounts, the temple was a Buddhist shrine till the 8th century and Adi Sankara converted it to a Hindu temple.
2. Other accounts relate that it was originally established as a pilgrimage site by Adi Shankara in the ninth century.
3. It is believed that Shankara resided in the place for six years from AD 814 to 820. He resided six months in Badrinath and the rest of the year in Kedarnath.
4. He discovered the deity of Badrinath in the Alaknanda River and enshrined it in a cave near the Tapt Kund hot springs.
5.A traditional story asserts that Shankara expelled all the Buddhists in the region to the other side, Tibet, with the help of the Parmar ruler king Kanak Pal. That may be the reason to believe that it may be a Buddhist Shrine.
6.The temple is revered in Nalayira Divya Prabandham (4000 verses on Lord Vishna in Tamil- a holy text of Sri Vaishnavites), in 11 hymns in the 7th–9th century Vaishnava canon by Periyazhwar and in 13 hymns by Thirumangai Azhwar. It is one of the 108 Divyadesam (like Thiruvananthapuram) of Sri Vaishnavism sect dedicated to Vishnu, who is worshipped as Badrinath.The temple is referred as Tiruvatariyaacciraamam in Tamil literature.
7.Today also, the selection of priest is done after consultation between Garhwal and Travancore royal families.
Yes. May be.
1.According to some accounts, the temple was a Buddhist shrine till the 8th century and Adi Sankara converted it to a Hindu temple.
2. Other accounts relate that it was originally established as a pilgrimage site by Adi Shankara in the ninth century.
3. It is believed that Shankara resided in the place for six years from AD 814 to 820. He resided six months in Badrinath and the rest of the year in Kedarnath.
4. He discovered the deity of Badrinath in the Alaknanda River and enshrined it in a cave near the Tapt Kund hot springs.
5.A traditional story asserts that Shankara expelled all the Buddhists in the region to the other side, Tibet, with the help of the Parmar ruler king Kanak Pal. That may be the reason to believe that it may be a Buddhist Shrine.
6.The temple is revered in Nalayira Divya Prabandham (4000 verses on Lord Vishna in Tamil- a holy text of Sri Vaishnavites), in 11 hymns in the 7th–9th century Vaishnava canon by Periyazhwar and in 13 hymns by Thirumangai Azhwar. It is one of the 108 Divyadesam (like Thiruvananthapuram) of Sri Vaishnavism sect dedicated to Vishnu, who is worshipped as Badrinath.The temple is referred as Tiruvatariyaacciraamam in Tamil literature.
7.Today also, the selection of priest is done after consultation between Garhwal and Travancore royal families.
North view:
Yes to add to your comments
There was no temple system in vedic system, temples are not build in India in ancient India specially in north Indian.The construction was only started by Buddhist and if a close look at these Badrinath, kedarnath, Shankaracharya temple in Srinagar - their structure clearly resembles of Buddhist monasteries all over the world... In south there was Hinduism but in north Buddhism is popular... The word to word mouth to mouth campaign Started by shankaracharya did the trick just like in movie dhrishyam.... So that people believe what was told to them... Even Shiv was called as Shankara after Shankaracharya name...... If Hinduism was already there in north what was the need that people come and propagate Hinduism...
